But there's sometimes when I read [music] read enemies to lovers where I'm just like that didn't really hit the mark. >> That's toxic. >> That they [laughter] just hate each other
We're actually just really mean. >> It's just enemies. >> Like okay
What about like if [music] you're on a trip with them? >> They're breaking up with you on a vacation. >> Yeah
It's like your last day on [music] the vacation and they're like, "Hey, actually after this I don't want to be together anymore." >> Oh, I want that done in person so I can like throw a drink. [music] >> Oh my gosh
You want to replay a voice note of somebody breaking up with you? You could show your [music] friend. >> I'm worried about you. >> Hi angels
Welcome back to Bucked Blonde and Busy
I am Olivia Pontton and today we are joined by Miss Karly Fortune aka the CEO of a beach read
Today we're going to be talking about Our Perfect Storm and the whole Carly Fortune universe, which I'm really excited about
So Carly, welcome to Booked Blonde and Busy
Okay
So, we're gonna do the beverage of the day because I do a beverage every episode
So, instead of our perfect storm, I'm doing our dark and stormy
Our dark and stormy beverage
This is ginger beer
And you're supposed to put rum in it, but like it's 11:48 on like a Tuesday
We're like not drinking. >> We've got 12 minutes before we can have like we're just not doing that
So, cheers
I'm going to try it. >> Yeah
It just tastes like ginger beer
Honestly, pretty fire
But that's her dark and stormy
So, this book comes out May 5th. >> So, if you haven't read it, a little synopsis
Frankie and George best friends for 20 plus years
And Frankie gets engaged, you know, like the stereotypical nice guy named Nate
And the night before their wedding, he well the morning of the wedding, she wakes up to a letter on the bed just being like, "We can't do this anymore." You know what? I'm I I can't Oh my gosh
It Well, first of all, I want to ask like where did that come from? Is that inspiration from something? Did this happen to you? >> I I fortunately um was not dumped just before my wedding. [laughter] >> I did did marry my fiance
Um I well I just wanted him out out quickly and mysteriously
And so he leaves her a note that is just like I'm I'm sorry I can't do this
And she has no idea why
Like there was nothing that really set it off. >> Yeah. >> So there's a mystery there to to solve
When I finished the last page I stared at the wall and I was like, "Holy crap, if I got broken up like that." So, going back to the little synopsis, that happens
Then there's this honeymoon that Nate, for some reason, is like, "Go on my dime, babe
Just go enjoy yourself." And George out of the blue comes back from whatever Peacecore thing he's going comes back and attends the attends the trip with her
That in itself has a lot of questions about that
Anyways, I think the thing with George and Frankie is like, like you said, they've been friends forever since they were eight, but they're 30 now and they've kind of been drifting apart
They had a very, very big fight recently
And Frankie's not even sure if he's going to turn up to the wedding as her best man
And so this trip when George proposes, they go on the honeymoon
He wants to help her heal after this breakup, but she sees this as a chance to kind of fix their friendship
And um I think that's kind of you know they both have different goals that it's setting out and that's that's where we kind of start off with them. >> Did you I almost like I feel like these people are real humans
So my thing is likead >> did [clears throat] George >> know that he was going to confess his love to Frankie before he was doing this whole the breakup plan? >> No
You okay? So this was like okay cuz that's what I was kind of understanding from while reading but I was like but maybe >> I don't think so to me um like George has kind of spent his whole life um loving Frankie in different ways and he I believe in the way that I was thinking about him writing this just truly wanted to help his friend
He has been holding back his feelings for a very long time
So I like you know my take on George is he is very patient and wouldn't have like crossed that line unless Frank like you know Frankie had to be in the right place
So I don't think that's what he set out to do
Um no. >> Okay
Short answer
No. >> Yeah
Okay
Gorgeous
Okay
So Nate leaves her with this Mhm
George ends up telling well we end up finding out why
And that was the gut punch of it is figuring out that George told Nate I'll love her and I'll know her in a way that you will never be able to amount
And as a human if someone told that to me like the person that I was dating I would also probably you know >> take myself out of the equation because I'd be like these people are meant to be together
How did you write George in a way that was it was the gut punch but it was still forgivable >> because if that would happen in a real life I don't know how many people would be forgiving of like I am supposed to get to marry tomorrow I have a whole wedding planned >> and then it just f it fell apart completely >> how did you write him in because I forgave him I was like you know what to each yeah like it's okay how did you write him from that perspective >> I had different kind of versions of what happened with George and the wedding
And what I think was really important in the end is that George was not intending to throw a wrench in the plans at all
And it was never his aim
And it really like the decision to um not get married was Nate's decision
And uh he like used the information that he had to make a choice
And you know that's um that came from him
And I think George, we just have so much empathy for George in his situation
And um I think if he had been a different kind of character or if he like he by the time we find that out, we know how how well he cares for Frankie and what a good friend he is
So I think we really do have like a lot of space for him to make mistakes cuz he tries so hard not to make mistakes. >> I know
Then he gets drunk the night before the wedding and yeah, it's like that's okay
That is a great explanation of it because I was curious on, you know, when when I brought up, you know, trying to figure out the themes for this, I was like, wait, if this happened in real life, that's so selfish
Like, I don't know if I would be able to overlook a friend or a significant other or a best friend or in some some capacity that
So, that's really interesting
And then for Frankie and George, their chemistry
Yeah. you somehow created 20 years of chemistry on paper
Like how do you how do you write that? >> I you know I u love writing about characters with history and I love seeing the way that we as women evolve over time but also how our friendships and our relationships with our parents with you know romantic interests with our siblings change over time
And I think the first thing I wrote in the book was the prologue
It's the first part that you read in the book and it's where the characters are 8 years old and where when they meet for the first time and I had had this vision years ago um of of these characters. was I was watching my I have two children and I was watching them chase rabbits in our backyard and the rabbit dove under the cedar hedge and I just had this vision of two children meeting through a fence where this girl sees a pair of blue eyes on the other side of the fence and I was wondering about who these children were for years before they became George and Frankie
And then when I wrote that first chapter, I felt like I knew, and this rarely happens, but I felt like I knew everything about Frankie writing that chapter, that she was this um adventure seeking girl, very very bored in living in the country, um very competitive, was, you know, always trying to keep up with her older brothers
Um and but big big-hearted and a little little weird
And I just like had this sense of her and then George together from the beginning
And what I wanted to do with the book is just show little glimpses of their relationship through time so that you get an understanding of where they are at different kind of pivotal moments in in >> I really like that you did that because you know the story would be going along and then we'd get a chapter from you know when they were 16 years old or 14 or so forth and so forth and I really felt like that helped >> curate the understanding of the characters
Okay, that's very interesting that you see whenever I talk to authors I'm like, "Oh, it makes sense why you do this." No, you know what I mean? >> It makes sense after it's written
It doesn't always make sense while we're writing [laughter] >> that. >> I had a lot of um this is the first time I put stuff on Q cards because there were, you know, there's seven days where they're in in Tofino
Each day of the honeymoon has a theme where George is like having a theme for how to repair her broken heart
And they do activities each day
And then at the end of each day, there's a flashback to the to the past
And trying to figure out what they did each day, what the theme of each day was, and then what moment from the past you're going to get after that was a bit of a puzzle for me
So there was a definitely like a mind map on the floor of my office trying to piece it together
Also, the breakup plan, as one would call it, I really thought that was cute. >> Oh, good
I've never read any book that's had that kind of placement in it and I thought it was really cute
I was like a transparently my sister's going through a breakup
I don't know if I can put this in, but she's going through a breakup right now
And I almost was like, should I copy and paste this? Should I like give her this like plan of like, okay, day one, this is what we're going to focus on
Day two, we're going to And honestly, I might give her this book and be like, maybe you should wait
She doesn't have a guy best friend that she can fall in love with. [laughter] >> So, at least she could find something. >> She could fall in love with George
Yeah, I knew that words
So, >> torino tofino. >> What? Why there? >> Why Tofino? So, Tofino is this very remote town on Vancouver Island off the west coast of Canada
It's about as far west as you can go in Canada
And I lived on Vancouver Island for a year when um I was in my early 20s after I graduated from university. >> Why? >> Um good question
And so I studied journalism
Okay
Um with and my boyfriend studied journalism
We met there and he got an internship at a newspaper on Vancouver Island in the city of Victoria
Um and I didn't have a job and he was like why don't you come to Victoria with me for the summer and I said sure
But then in the you know once I said yes I got a job out there
So I ended up living on Vancouver Island for a year after university
And twice while I was there, I visited Tofino
And it's um was one of the most incredible places I've ever been
It is it's where the rainforest and the beach collide
So there are these >> trees, these ancient hundreds of year year old trees, rainforest, and then it kind of smashes right up into the beach. >> When you were writing that, cuz I'm a beach girl till I die
I've never like the way you were writing that
I was like, "Wait, forest?" Great
What? >> Yes. >> Interesting. >> And the the beaches are this very very pale white sand with um these rocks and a lot of evergreen trees and it's very the mist kind of comes in in the evening and the fog and it feels very otherworldly and it really when I was there I felt like I was standing on the edge of the world >> and you kind of are
You kind of are
There's no one there's nothing really
I mean there's Hawaii but that's for ages. >> Yeah
So it and it really stayed with me and when I started writing fiction I knew I wanted to revisit Tofino in a story and I was waiting for a story that had the same kind of drama as the place and um I went I visit my husband and I that boyfriend I married um we went back and I didn't have an idea for a story then I just wanted to like familiarize myself with the place again and then after I had written a first draft of our perfect storm we went back again so I could really like fill in the holes that I knew I had with the with the draft. >> Did you guys go surfing? >> We did go surfing
Yeah. >> Yeah
I'm such a surf girl. >> Yeah
When I was reading it, I love when books have like little >> things that I'm already familiar with and when you were talking about the surfing cuz they did two surf sessions or two over two different days
And I thought that it's like just the way that you embodied like catching away
It was just like really cute to read. >> Oh my gosh
I'm so glad
I'm so glad we did
Yeah, we did uh two two surf lessons and um it was so much fun. >> Is the water cold up there though? >> Oh, it is so cold
Like you are you are head to toe covered in a wet suit and then you're still kind of cold by the end. >> What about the whales as well? Because obviously well whales are a huge huge theme in this book and also >> I mean on top of the love romance that's going on she's also fixing the relationship with her mother which was very incredible to read
And I think you embodied those emotions perfectly as someone who's like gone, me and my mom, she's my best friend, but like we have gone through it
We have had a very stormlike relationship. >> Yeah. >> So what did the whales where did that come from? [laughter] >> Such a good question
Um, I knew that I wanted them to go whale watching into that that would be one of the activities because I had on my third trip my husband and I went whale watching and it was unlike anything I could have imagined
We saw um three grey whales which are enormous and one was came up quite close and the sound that it made when the mist kind of came from the blow hole it was it really was like being in front of a dinosaur
Um and that stuck with me and I because I had lived on the west coast I had seen a lot of advertisements for whale watching in my time and I I just didn't think I was like that seems very touristy
Um, but then it had this profound impact on me
And when I I knew with Our Perfect Storm that Frankie's mom would have left for a period of time and that the day that she left was going to be the day Frankie met George
And I didn't know why she left
And it was really important to me that her mom wasn't a villain
Like we, you know, I'm a parent. >> We make a lot of sacrifices. we make choices um that we're not always proud of, but we feel like we need to make
And I wanted I wanted Frankie and her mom to really like have a relationship that was imperfect but repable
And so figuring out why her mom left was so important
And then the idea came to me that it would be for her job
And I thought I I thought what if she worked with whales and it will bring like whales kind of full circle into the book
Like Frankie, it's so funny to me that Frankie hates whales
Like who hates whales? >> That's what when I was reading cuz as someone who I've gone whale watching like from a boat, but I've never been in the water with them
And every like you're saying, every time people have this like profound moment where it's just like you really are the tiniest creature on earth and seeing them up close is like >> Yeah
It's just like no other emotion that you've ever felt. >> Yeah
Also similar with the whales
I was like, why I feel like I haven't read a book that's had this theme, I one would say
And same thing with the mother like you're talking about
It didn't make me hate her cuz I was like, I almost feel for you in a way where it's like she gave up everything to be a mom and to be with the husband and to the to do the whole nine yards of what society expects you to do
And then her getting to this age of like I have this calling
I need to fulfill this calling and she did only leave for a year
I mean that's still bad, but like at least she came back
You know what I mean? >> Yeah
I think it's I think it's something that we can see both sides of
Um, and I with Frankie, one of the things I wanted her to learn in this book is that um, we are telling ourselves these stories about the people in our lives and who they are is who they are, why they do the things that they do
She um, really judges her mother for what she's done
And that is obviously, of course, she does
And it's really, you know, it was a trauma for Frankie
She also has this idea of George being perfect and flawless and she as they've gotten older and older she's really put him on this pedestal and what she kind of learns throughout the book is that everybody has their own experiences and the narrative that we have constructed is not the same as what we're telling our tell telling ourselves
It's not that's not George's story
It's not her mom's story and she really has to start listening to people >> to other people >> to other people
Yeah, >> that's a be that's also a beautiful lesson
If one might I might take as >> it's not easy
That's not easy >> cuz sometimes you make these, you know, visions of people in your brain and then you get upset when they don't act the way that you expect them to act. >> For sure. >> That's a hard lesson. >> Especially people who are close with us because we kind of see, you know, our parents, our siblings, our partners as part of us. >> Yeah
So we, you know, we we stop kind of considering their own agency and like no, you are a part of this. >> Yeah
Yeah, [laughter] >> it's true. >> I have a question
So obviously you have so many incredible books
This was a funny question I was thinking about
What comes first, the trope or the story line? Do you figure out like is it going to be a slowburn? It's going to be friends, lovers, enemies to lovers, like how does that work? >> Um neither comes first
The setting always comes first for me
Yes, it's the setting >> 100%. >> Then the protagonist, like the the female character, >> and then like the relationship, the emotions, the kind of arc that I want to tell
I don't think about tropes until I am like, oh, therefore, it would be this kind of trope
It's not what I go to when I'm brainstorming
Like I don't think, oh, I'm gonna write a this is a I want to write a friends to lovers, a childhood friends to lovers
That's not what I um think about when I'm brainstorming. >> Interesting. >> Cuz I feel like all your books have such they all have the same DNA, but they're all very different within like the love dynamics that are happening. >> Yeah
Yeah
I hope so
I mean, that's like one of the things that I'm thinking about with George and Frankie
I really wanted characters who were similar to each other because I hadn't written about two people who were almost like mirror images and they I I really wanted Frankie to be hotheaded and um because I tried to write the character I'd written about previously in one golden summer Alice is very soft
She is like a caregiver and I wanted to to not write another Alice and so I was like I want Frankie to be fiery
I want her to be argumentative and stubborn and I want her best friend and her the hero of this story to be this similar
And when I thought when I was thinking about that, I was like, "Wow, that makes them like Lori and Joe from Little Women who I was a major Lori and Joe shipper, >> which you referenced many, many, many times." >> Totally
Like it's not a retelling of Little Women, but there if you are a Little Women fan, there's a lot of little Easter eggs and references, >> which I thought was really cute that you had its >> cuz I I enjoy when books kind of cross over and bring things from your personal life like the surfing or the whales or they have other things where it makes you think like, oh, like I could it makes the book feel more realistic >> to yourself as a reader and you can actually see your >> see yourself embodying that character, which I find you
So, what's a book? Well, I guess if you don't write tropes, but what's something that you haven't written yet? Like in a trope? That's where I was going
If you don't write tropes, but like a friendship dynamic or like two main characters, what's something that you haven't written yet? >> Okay
Something that I haven't written
So, I like I am so once I have a story, I know what the tropes are, right? And tropes can be applied to any kind of genre of story, any kind of song even
Um, and so when I look back at what I've done, I've never I have not done like an enemies to lovers or like a nemesis to lovers. >> Um, that's like the the one I haven't done any kind of fake dating. >> Um, >> would you ever do those either of those? >> I mean, maybe like it if it if it felt right in the story, I totally would
Um, I love reading like an enemies to lovers story
Love it
Um, I for those I think it entirely depends on the author and their writing style cuz I've read some enemies to lovers and I'm like like I just read Binding 13 by Chloe Walsh and they're they weren't really enemies to lovers
It was more friends but like obsessed with that
Like I like the writing style I was like wow that was incredibly done
But there's sometimes when I've read read Enemies to lovers where I'm just like that didn't really hit the mark. >> It's toxic. >> That they just [laughter] hate each other. you're actually just really mean. >> It's just enemies. >> Like they're just bullying. >> No, it hits a fine line
And I find myself like sometimes I set out one Golden Summer um with Charlie and Alice
There was a bit of like friction there at the beginning, but then like I it's always my I'm like, but I just kind of want them to be friends. [laughter] >> So I very like quickly like now they're friends. >> That's what I felt about when starting that book
I was like, "Okay, I was getting enemies to lovers, but it was more so just like he was kind of like messing with her
It wasn't like actually such he loves his he's such a teaser
Like he loves teasing, >> which I thought that was like a cute way to bring it over from like enemies to them just like cuz I feel like that's more realistic
Like you mess around with your guy sometimes or like you know that's very realistic if you're going on dates
Like sometimes you guys like make fun of each other a little bit
Not everyone does that, but that is something that people do
I do I am I am it's like something that the fortune family does is we tease the people we love and not everybody likes being teased
I have learned the hard [laughter] way that is very similar in my family
My father likes to make fun of us and I take it like a champ
I'm like whatever you think I look stupid okay who cares
My sister on the other hand gets really offended
Like you cannot be >> like even if we're just joking we can't be mean to her cuz she'll take it very seriously
And I'm like no no no we love you
We love you. >> But it hurts. >> Yeah
And I'm like, I'm sorry
Okay
You have so many adaptations going on
We're switching up a little bit
You have so many book adaptations going on and you're an executive producer on Every Summer After. >> Mhm. >> Why was it so important that you were in those rooms? >> Yeah. >> I'm going to start with that
That's the first question
Um, I want to make sure that any adaptation of my work really um, ha keeps the heart and soul of the book. >> And adaptation is not taking a book and putting it on the screen
I mean, particularly um, Every Summer After is going to be a series
It's called Every Year After
It's on It's on Prime June 10th. >> Um, that and the casting for that is >> Oh, it's perfect
It's so good. >> I'm so happy with it
But, you know, it's a it's a series and so Every Summer After is a book with a clear beginning, middle, end
And it's centered very closely on two maybe three or four characters at the like the the the story really is quite tight, but a series needs to like open all of that up
And there are changes that are made to the benefit of a TV show
And I am so cool with that. >> And I think what our showrunner Amy B Harris has done is preserved the emotional core of the book, the heart of the book
She's like found moments that fans will want to see
They're there, but it's it's also its own project, but it feels like it's really in conversation with the book
And that's that's so important to me
It's also really important to me as a Canadian author who's writing about Canadian places that we are shooting in Canada that we are like showing like how these places are so beautiful that we're able to show that
And I want to make sure that um a reader of the book, a fan is getting what they what they want out of it
And it's like I try to look at the projects from in two ways
One is as an adaptation of like a Carly Fortune work and what are the kind of elements that people expect and the other is just as like a you know a film or a TV in and of itself and is this like is this working for me and separate of it being an adaptation of mine. >> Interesting
I also saw somewhere that you like to keep specific lines from the books in the script. >> Oh yeah
How does that like do you go into the I was just on my first movie set a few weeks ago and it was crazy
And like do you go into like the scripting room? I don't not sure what the rooms are, but the writer room
Okay
Do you go into that and like you tell them these is this is like my non-negotiable
This is what has to say in or is it more of like a collaborative decision? >> Every every project is different
Um, you know, I think the best case is where you have a writer, writers who are either so aware of like the fan culture around the book that they already know like >> what the main lines are or you have a discussion where it's like this is what people really want to see
This is this is key
Um, and then when you're then when you're reading the scripts, you're like, oh, in this moment we want to see this
It's just a little note like and you know ideally they're like, "Oh my gosh, thank you so much." Because you just want to it's you don't want to just um appeal to fans, right? You're you're looking for a broader audience for sure, but you want to have those moments that feel like a little wink, a little gift to the fans of the book. >> I agree
When I'm watching book adaptations, I really appreciate when they keep like >> niche things that like only if you read the book, you would understand
And then that way when you're reading or when you're watching it with someone else who hasn't read the book, you're like that's from the book
Like that's you kind of have that like insider club kind of feeling. >> You get what's it like to see your characters get casted as real humans? You said you love the cast
I love the cast. >> I do
I love the cast
How is it to see them embody those hair? Is that like nostalgic? Like is that trippy to see? >> Surreal
It was surreal
Um when I saw the t the audition tapes, I was really excited because I thought >> everyone was incredible
Everyone was so incredible
And then going on set and watching that was mind-blowing
It it was both because you're seeing your characters come to life and in with every year you're After it's in a way that I think is so beautifully done
I think that the cast is just so talented
Um but then you're also seeing the places come to life and Barry's Bay, the setting of the book, it's where I grew up and you know we shot in Vancouver, not in Ontario
Um, so they built this kind of um, Barry's Bay out of out of a a little community that where we shot
And it was walking onto that set and seeing, oh, there's Steman's General Store and there's the Tavern and there's the Dairy Bar
It was just so un It It really was like I couldn't get my head around it
It was kind of an outof body experience
And it was also seeing how many people bring that together
Like the how many artists and crafts people go into making a show
It's um very very cool and um touching and so special. >> I I do think about that when you go on to sets
It's like you don't even process how many people are behind
Like one time I was shooting for VS and we were doing um >> their like holiday campaign and they built a cabin inside of the studio like a fullon set design and I was like how many weeks did this take you guys? And they're like oh like two and I was like two weeks for us to shoot one day at this
I was like it's it's it's incredible. >> It's so cool
Like all the sets that they constructed like they constructed Percy's cottage bedroom
And walking into that bedroom which I write about in the book and they've got the posters that are in the book
They've got it's just um just jaw-dropping. >> It's kind of almost like walking through your imagination >> like that's crazy
Like that would be crazy emotion in my opinion. >> Especially there's a set they constructed for the basement of uh Sam and Charlie's house growing up which has this red plaid couch and it's um so of an era and that really did feel like walking into the real >> place for my mind
Yeah. >> Um, >> be so crazy. >> It was. [laughter] >> Wow
What a peculiar feeling that I feel like most people will never be able to >> Yeah. >> experience. >> It's so wild for so many reasons, but one of them is because when I wrote that book, it was the pandemic
I'd never written a book before
I was a journalist, but I really wanted to write something, but I didn't intend to publish it
I was just trying to write it for myself
I wanted to prove to myself that I could do it
And so to have that book like then it was published then it became this big hit and now it's becoming a TV show and it's all set in this town of 1,200 people where I grew up is >> people there are like what is going on? [laughter] Why is there is this is this play about us? What's going on? >> So now we're going to play a little game
Okay
So, I'm going to read off a few ways to break up with someone
I just want like your opinion on like yes, no, yeah, I would do that
No, I wouldn't do that
Yeah, that's respectful
Yeah
So, start off with a phone call. >> How long have you been in a relationship for? I think we should >> Let me give you a scenario. >> Yeah
Yeah
Yeah
Yeah. >> Let's do that
So, you've been dating like like you're you've been seeing each other for like 2 and 1/2 months. serious but like non-exclusive, but the girl's like really in love with him and he's kind of like uh he's calling her to tell her like we're I think that's fine. >> Okay, I would agree
What about a text me? Okay, I got to go more into this
So, you've been dating for 3 years. >> Yeah. >> And you're about to move in with each other
Yeah. >> Next week. >> And you get a text message saying that they don't want to move in anymore and they actually want to break up. >> No
Obviously, that's absolutely terrible
Like tbh
I'd rather a text than a phone call. >> But do you think a phone call is acceptable then too? >> Like Yeah. >> 3 years. >> Yeah. >> Like you could call me
You could also just send me a voice note and I'd be like "Okay >> a voice note >> cuz you can replay the voice note." You know what I mean? >> I think that's funny. >> Oh my gosh
You want to replay a voice note of somebody breaking up with you >> cuz then you can show your friends. >> I'm worried about you. [laughter] But like there's nothing worse than when you're like telling your friends a story and you're like trying to recap what they said
Like I wish I just had it with [laughter] you
You know what I mean? Like a voice note would be really nice. >> Yeah
You just want to back up and like that's what happened and then they could like we could debrief it. >> You okay? Do you prefer that it be heinous so that you can feel >> I' about Yeah
I'd rather you be like a little >> terrible. >> Yeah
Because you have a reason to hate
But I feel like everyone's like that
Like you if someone breaks up with you, you kind of have to flip the narrative and like >> like my one friend's going through a breakup right now and she has to make herself hate him even though he really didn't do anything wrong
It's just like they didn't work out, but she's in the process
And I'm friends with the guy, too
And he's like, "I didn't do anything wrong
Like, we just aren't working out." And I'm like, "Yeah, but she's got to hate you for a little part of the process
She'll get over it eventually." Okay, next one
Um, let me think
You're in high school. >> Okay. >> You've been dating maybe like a year and they text you on Snapchat. >> No
That's so bad. >> You're like absolutely not. >> Like I one high school year is like I don't know 20 adults years >> honestly
Yeah. >> Like that is that is so emotional. >> Okay
What about you've been dating like 3 weeks? No
Actually, let's do this
Like you've been dating for 6 months. >> Okay. >> And they break up with you in person
Mhm
That's fine. >> You're fine
But wouldn't you like save yourself the humility and just like send me a text? >> Wow. >> That's how I think
Like I'm in a full glam
I'm going to put hair and makeup on to come meet you for a date night and you're going to break up with me
That's what I feel. >> Okay
What if they came over to your apartment with your favorite warm beverage and had a very like short >> Mhm. but kind conversation. >> There's nothing kind about breaking up with me. >> That's my thought process. >> Yeah
I don't know. >> Like >> a war. [laughter] >> I'm like, if they brought me something, I'd be like, then why are we breaking up? You know what I mean? >> It's such a good question
You know, do you want to be able to be alone and go through your experience, like your emotional process >> because then they're trying to be there for you? >> I think like >> Yeah
And it's like I don't want you to be here like >> you just rocked my world. >> Okay
But okay
Okay
So 6 months maybe we're sending a text
What if it's six years? If you're like >> you're living together >> the best way like in person I feel like you got to do that in person
There's no other >> then it just becomes a thing about respect in my opinion like how much you respect the person. >> Okay
What about like if you're on a trip with them? >> They're breaking up with you on a vacation. >> Yeah. >> It's like your last day on the vacation and they're like, "Hey, actually after this I don't want to be together anymore." >> Oh, I want that done in person so I can like throw a drink
What if they're on a vacation like [clears throat] checking you guys out and you're like packing up in the room and he's like, "Oh, let me go check out really quick
Can you just grab the bags >> and then they just leave?" >> What are you talking about? >> What if he told the front desk and was like, "Can you bring them with her for me?" That's okay
Anyway, out of all those, what do you [laughter] think? Out of all this, what do you think is the worst? the front desk like pretty that's I I don't know if I want a voice memo though I think Olivia that's >> I don't know >> well fortune thank you so much for coming on booked blonde and busy >> oh my gosh this was so fun >> I know I feel like we got to talk our crap about the breakups but [laughter] it was fine thank you so much angels for watching this please do not forget to share it with your friends if you have any other Carly fortune lovers don't forget to like comment and subscribe cribe
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